tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5601885929616016080.post5874213949740563510..comments2023-05-27T17:43:37.593-07:00Comments on Tree of Life: Tree of Life... sometimes?Keredriahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03207180365848283163noreply@blogger.comBlogger15125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5601885929616016080.post-57125641174880540762010-07-31T20:48:20.457-07:002010-07-31T20:48:20.457-07:00A Resto druid's "Utility" is his/her...A Resto druid's "Utility" is his/her ability to keep people alive. What else do they have to do, top DPS charts too?<br /><br />As for those who comment on finally seeing their gear...if they can appreciate their gear in combat, they are either useless, facerolling, or very, very talented (likely the former). Either way, no reasonable person (who know the class) rolls a druid to admire their gear during combat...Yuriyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03267221815328752284noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5601885929616016080.post-86642909190489989472010-04-12T17:23:38.482-07:002010-04-12T17:23:38.482-07:00@Kae: Yay warm fuzzies! Yes, it is nice to see tha...@Kae: Yay warm fuzzies! Yes, it is nice to see that they want us to use more of our spells. <br /><br />I just hope they are not coming up with class changes based on the top 25 man raiding guilds in the world. I just don't think that information would be representative for most of the playerbase.<br /><br />@Bell: Really this whole needing to shift to do dps or cc boggles my mind. Boggles! Spriests and our fellow feral and boomkin druids have to shift out to spot heal. So its ok for them to shift out to fulfill a side role but not us? I just don't get it.Keredriahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03207180365848283163noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5601885929616016080.post-67884783476006247192010-04-12T15:57:40.739-07:002010-04-12T15:57:40.739-07:00@Keredria
Tbh, I have never disliked the ToL form ...@Keredria<br />Tbh, I have never disliked the ToL form and enjoyed the uniqueness it brought to our class, it also made raid leading a bit easier I.e. "Everyone stack on the Tree NOW!!". However, for me that is not the most important part of the class. What I love about the resto druid is the style of healing. I like the flexibility of HoTs and how I have to be a more pro-active healer by hotting everyone up before the big influx of dmg. I like being able to jump around and move with minimal healing reduction.<br /><br />I guess it is in that context which I see the ToL change. I feel that this change is in line with the resto druids preemptive style of healing and will give me another tool which if used properly could be really useful. I kind of like the idea of the ToL form being like a 'super-tree' status. Maybe they should even make the model bigger :pAceralnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5601885929616016080.post-89629531165584949112010-04-12T14:28:16.533-07:002010-04-12T14:28:16.533-07:00This feels like a dumbing down of Druids for peopl...This feels like a dumbing down of Druids for people who can't handle shifting, and a nerf for people who use the ability to shift between two kinds of caster (without losing the ability to heal) without any problems.Bellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13850946760618331779noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5601885929616016080.post-58821838314834072962010-04-12T07:52:44.511-07:002010-04-12T07:52:44.511-07:00Regarding the 10-man vs 25-man parses: I'm ac...Regarding the 10-man vs 25-man parses: I'm actually grinning at the whole "lawl just try blanketing rejuv/wg at 85" comment. While they certainly are looking at 25-man druids, I don't think it's to the detriment of 10-man raiders: if anything, it sounds like they want the 25-man restos to play more like the 10-man restos, using the larger variety of spells.<br /><br />It gives me a warm fuzzy.Kaehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16164718601021220108noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5601885929616016080.post-7285385120132914792010-04-12T07:37:37.357-07:002010-04-12T07:37:37.357-07:00@Beru: Well this post would have probably been a l...@Beru: Well this post would have probably been a lot of rawr, angry tree is angry if I had posted on Friday or Saturday. I wanted to give it a bit to digest. But yeah, there would have been exponentially more f-bombs. :)<br /><br />@Adeanna and alanoo: Yeah, its quite surprising how attached we are to our tree form isn't it? I don't think I quite realized how much I was until they talked about taking it away.<br /><br />@Aceral: Honestly, I am very glad that you chose to comment. When I first heard this potential change, I'll be honest... I never even considered the possibility that there would be resto druids that welcomed this change. So yes, the conversation and understanding the other side is valuable. <br /><br />But really it makes me a little sad for you guys if you have disliked the tree form... that you've been unhappy with an intergral part of being a resto druid this long. I'm genuinely curious, what had kept you playing a resto druid then?Keredriahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03207180365848283163noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5601885929616016080.post-90300656597171502172010-04-12T07:28:01.263-07:002010-04-12T07:28:01.263-07:00@fallingleavesandwings
Yea, your probably right t...@fallingleavesandwings <br />Yea, your probably right that a blogger would not feel threatened by reader rage etc. and thus, your perception of the general blogosperes reaction to this is probably correct.<br /><br />However, the points about over-representation of Neg. responses is still legitimate and the comments on this post are probably a prime example of this. I myself probably wouldn't have bothered posting except that I find myself with a bit of free time atm.<br /><br />I would be fine with the idea of it being a spec choice or some of the other ideas floating around. But I guess on the plus side it has gotten alot of us druids engaged and talking :)Aceralnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5601885929616016080.post-36023474236735050232010-04-12T06:17:04.983-07:002010-04-12T06:17:04.983-07:00I am (very) sad loosing the Tree form, but well......I am (very) sad loosing the Tree form, but well... I still remember the vanilla times healing the raid without this form, and it was not that bad...<br />Why would they not keep the actual tree form maybe with less bonusses and make a "super" tree form on CD... this should be ok for almost everybody...alanoohttp://www.pangemonia.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5601885929616016080.post-86323998177055333232010-04-12T02:52:12.407-07:002010-04-12T02:52:12.407-07:00i agree with this post and points you made. i'...i agree with this post and points you made. i'm quite upset with the prospect of loosing my tree form for some CD ability.Adeannanoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5601885929616016080.post-35291145463006347282010-04-11T21:50:13.209-07:002010-04-11T21:50:13.209-07:00@Aceral - I very much doubt that anyone speaking o...@Aceral - I very much doubt that anyone speaking out for or against the ToL change on their blog is doing so for fear or "reader rage". I think it's what those players behind the blogs truly feel. (Me? I'm pissed, and that is evidenced from my post from some 9 months ago when this was first proposed).<br /><br />@K - This was excellently worded! Much better than my ARGHHHH WHYYYYYYYYY!!!!! post was :) But I agree with everything you've said here!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5601885929616016080.post-51512712225865437502010-04-11T17:20:53.051-07:002010-04-11T17:20:53.051-07:00@Littlebark: #1 I'm so glad I found you again!...@Littlebark: #1 I'm so glad I found you again! I had you in my reader under your old blog name! <br /><br />And yes, there is a part of me that also wonders whether some of this is pvp based even though GC said it isn't. As a fellow resto druid who does a ton of pvp and arena is all 3 brackets, heck take away the extra armor buff in tree form. <br /><br />@Aceral: I wonder what it is about us resto druids and bloggers who feel differently about this? What is it that makes some of us ok with this change and others go rawr? Hmmm (slight pause for contemplation).<br /><br />Anyways, I also wondered if tree form could be a spec choice within the resto tree. Just like not all resto druids spec the same now... can't we have that choice? So enable healing in nightelf/tauren form to be viable. Then those of us who want the tree form can choose those talent points and spec differently.<br /><br />What irks me is this cookie cutter mentality that somehow we are missing some "utility" and have to be the same as other healing classes. I think there is room for differences not only between healing classes but even within our healing class. <br /><br />Let tree form be a choice... those of us who choose it and spec into it will always heal in it. Those of us who hate it can spec differently (the talents would have to be adjusted to allow this to be viable) and heal outside of tree form.Keredriahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03207180365848283163noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5601885929616016080.post-48431168943907655032010-04-11T16:58:22.897-07:002010-04-11T16:58:22.897-07:00I'm fine with the ToL changes. I actually am q...I'm fine with the ToL changes. I actually am quite looking forward to it being a pre-emptive Oh S%^t button. It would be perfect for things like XT's tantrum and just the harder healing phases of different fights.<br /><br />I agree with Jasyla that you always hear the neg. responses far more than the positive, and I have been very surprised that there hasn't been more support in the blogging community for the move. Perhaps some of them are also afraid of rage from their readers and other bloggers.Aceralnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5601885929616016080.post-28869075354560463812010-04-11T16:35:07.902-07:002010-04-11T16:35:07.902-07:00I am beyond pissed off. Like I said in my post, if...I am beyond pissed off. Like I said in my post, if I wanted to look at my armor while healing I would have rolled a shaman, priest or paladin. The druid base lies within the shapeshifting. Bears tank, cats and owlkin dps and trees heal. If they were doing this to the whole druid forms, meh. But why just healing? <br /><br />I see this as a huge huge huge PvP buff. As someone who arenas as a resto druid (and I am rarely in tree form then), I STILL hate this change. I have the OPTION of not being a tree in the arena. Sure, I'm more squishy but I chose to stay in caster form to cyclone/root. In PvE, my tree form is my buff. <br /><br />Seriously Blizzard. What the eff... I'm not sure what the hell is up with GC but his condesending attitude is not welcome with me. <br /><br />/end rantLittlebarkhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02148011751072617591noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5601885929616016080.post-42345662700017527832010-04-11T15:54:05.974-07:002010-04-11T15:54:05.974-07:00@Jasyla: That is true that people are vocal when t...@Jasyla: That is true that people are vocal when they are against something.<br /><br />But let's just consider this. If (and this is a big if) the resto druid blogging community is representative of the resto druid player base (again big if), from the posts I saw this weekend, the trees are much more against this change than for it.Keredriahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03207180365848283163noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5601885929616016080.post-60137703366303690992010-04-11T15:42:42.272-07:002010-04-11T15:42:42.272-07:00You know why there are more people posting in the ...You know why there are more people posting in the forums saying they are against the change? Because that's what people do. The average person is much more likely to write an email, pick up the phone or post on a forum when they have a negative reaction than when they have a positive one. This applies to everything from customer service to political announcements to WoW patch notes. There is no lack of people who love this change, they are just less vocal, because they don't feel they are being slighted in any way and therefore don't need to be overly vocal. When GC first asked the question "is healing as a tree fun?" on the forums a few months ago, there were many people who expressed a desire for tree form to go away.<br /><br />As for the lack of spells, the addition of tree form as a cooldown is a new spell that we will have to learn how to use appropriately.Jasylahttp://cannotbetamed.blogspot.comnoreply@blogger.com